“Managers should always be involved. HR should be involved, but it shouldn’t be outsourced to them, No employee should ever actually be surprised they weren’t performing. We don’t always get it right.”
Is it a layoff or not? It sounds like the employer is avoiding lay off penalties completely by calling it performance based.
Disguising layoffs as performance based firings seems to be more and more popular these days. As an older employee who’s in the process of being managed out/quiet fired, it’s a horrible, sadistic way to gaslight your employees and toy with their mental health.
Yeah. That’s why I was curious. I replied to a comment saying we need to raise penalties for layoffs to disincentivize it. But if employers are using performance as a guise to do layoff without a layoff, that might mean the layoff punishment is deterring it in a weird way.
Sorry about your position. That sucks. When I look around at colleagues and their age, it makes me wonder if I should move to a management track instead of staying IC.
Thanks. I considered management at various times during my career. But it’s just not for me. With that being said, I can tell you that it’s rough being an older IC if you want job security.
Is it a layoff or not? It sounds like the employer is avoiding lay off penalties completely by calling it performance based.
Disguising layoffs as performance based firings seems to be more and more popular these days. As an older employee who’s in the process of being managed out/quiet fired, it’s a horrible, sadistic way to gaslight your employees and toy with their mental health.
Yeah. That’s why I was curious. I replied to a comment saying we need to raise penalties for layoffs to disincentivize it. But if employers are using performance as a guise to do layoff without a layoff, that might mean the layoff punishment is deterring it in a weird way.
Sorry about your position. That sucks. When I look around at colleagues and their age, it makes me wonder if I should move to a management track instead of staying IC.
Thanks. I considered management at various times during my career. But it’s just not for me. With that being said, I can tell you that it’s rough being an older IC if you want job security.