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  • Third time support has exceeded 60%, along with 2017 and 2021
  • Republicans primarily behind the increase, with 58% now in favor
  • Political independents remain group most likely to favor third party
  • Treczoks@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    As long as the US sticks to it’s long outdated and undemocratic FPTP voting model, you won’t see a relevant third party in congress.

  • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    If only people voted for what they wanted instead of against what they were scared of because that number is more than enough for a political shift even if there were two alternative parties, one to each main one. The ‘wasted vote’ propagand is doing more work keeping republicans in charge than the supreme court is. Since more republicans than democrats want a third party, so the only worry should be that too many democrats get elected if we tried.

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      No it’s not. No third party has anywhere close to a meaningful support level to start talking about the system being the reason. Not only are they nowhere close, they run unqualified or failed two party system candidates with untested or even well thought out ideas and use the entire thing as largely a grift to sell books or gain klout. Recently party officials have even run because no serious candidate actually tries to win any national office at all.

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        No ones gonna fund a party no ones voting for. Not to mention they get federal funding money if they reach a certain vote threshold, a threshold we can hit to fix those problems you speak of. The numbers of voters are there, but if you like the duopoly just say that but you’re not gonna make third parties viable by voting for the two parties that benefit from there not being large third parties. If you don’t want third party choices to be viable sure what you say makes sense, but you cannot keep voting for the same thing and expect a different outcome. Its either stop supporting the duopoly or resign yourself to voting for a duopoly candidate for the ret of your life.

  • player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    If only the politicians in the dominant parties had any incentive to make elections fair for all parties. As it stands, the dominant parties have too many systems in place to give themselves advantages.

    Rank choice voting seems like an obvious upgrade to our current voting system but is nowhere to be found other than a couple states.

  • centof@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    If any of you actually want to work towards a solution to this look into Forward Party. Forward Party is trying to make third parties actually viable through ranked-choice voting and open, nonpartisan primaries. Once states move past First Past the Post voting, it will actually be possible to vote for third parties without acting as a spoiler.

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        1 year ago

        Feel free to dismiss any new idea with baseless name calling if you want.

        Unlike Forward Party, No Labels is actually funded and made up of mainstream US politicians and interest groups. No Labels is an establishment group pushed by right wing(republican) corporate interests. Forward Party is an outsider third party that is ignored by the established media outlets because they don’t control it.

        The linked video assumes the left right spectrum is communism vs capitalism which is NOT how it is used in the US. In the US left is dems and right is repubs to the general population. That is the meaning of Forward’s Slogan in this context.

        They are saying both of the democratic and republican parties are wrong and we need a different approach that does not conform to party lines. That is exactly what the OP shows.

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          I watched interview on mainstream media about the forward party. Yang refused to be nailed to any position, and wouldn’t say that maybe self-described Nazis shouldn’t have a place in his party. So, it wasn’t that the establishment is trying to hide it, they just aren’t a thing of any substance.