• Neato@ttrpg.network
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    10 months ago

    The Israel situation won’t swing the vote. Most people support Israel blindly or don’t care enough to be knowledgeable.

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      10 months ago

      A couple of recent polls asked “What is the most important issue to you?”.

      About 30-35% said “the economy”. Only 1-2% said “Israel/Gaza”.

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        Why would anyone expect it to be much higher than that? People are selfish and that’s not entirely unreasonable when it comes to politics. It makes no sense for a foreign policy position to be the determining factor when deciding who to vote for, especially when we have so many problems here at home.

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          10 months ago

          Lol the US has been supporting Saudi Arabia through their war on the Houthis for 3 consecutive administrations which killed checks notes 85.000 children alone

          Some libs who just recently learned less than half about the conflict in Palestine and think it’s Kony 2.0 smh

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              That’s 85.000 children starving over a 4 year period alone. 380.000 total civilian deaths over 8 years.

              Did you see a lot of protests to call for a ceasefire? Do you feel their deaths are less worthy?

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                10 months ago

                Maybe you should lead with the real numbers instead of the fucking gotcha numbers.

                Congratulations you got your got your moment that you specifically set up

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                OK, so what do you need to do is take it over the last three consecutive administrations like you said.

                That starts with Obama for eight years, trump for four and Biden 43 going on four.

                Say what you mean and mean what you say.

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                  What I’m saying is that Americans are easily Kony’d into one day waking up and caring about one particular conflict that they never really cared about before, because they are so oblivious to what’s going on in the world

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      I wouldn’t reduce it to a binary. I think there’s a pretty good chunk of the population who are anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian, but aren’t reachable as swing voters. They’re to the left of the current Democratic Party and might vote begrudgingly for Biden, but wouldn’t vote for Trump under any circumstances.

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        Anti-Israel, pro-Jewish, and pro-civilian Palestinians here! I will vote begrudgingly toward Biden, but will vote for candidates that do not support unconditional support toward Israel and they have naunced opinions while still supporting Jewish people and Palestinians.

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      Young voters are significantly impacted by this issue and they carry a lot of momentum. I think the people saying that this won’t sway the vote are really discounting how important that momentum is.

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        10 months ago

        How are young American voters impacted by the war in Gaza? I understand they care about it, but impacted sounds like it has more than morale effects.