• zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It came from “the constitution empowers state legislatures to enact the rules for their own elections, including determining who should appear on ballots”, with the implicit assumption that the states could then determine this in undemocratic ways if they so wanted.

    Your second point makes me think that you think we’re arguing or something. I really don’t think we are.

    The third point touches on what I was asking about. When that determination is subjected to judicial review - which laws is it subject to? If Texas were to simply amend their constitution to say Democrats can’t appear on presidential ballots, would there actually be a federal law that would prevent them from enforcing that?

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      1 year ago

      with the implicit assumption that the states could then determine this in undemocratic ways if they so wanted.

      I don’t think that implicit assumption arises from my argument.

      For example, I don’t think it is undemocratic for the state to require candidates to circulate a petition and gather at least 5000 signatures from registered voters within the state before being allowed to appear on the ballot. The constitution doesn’t provide for such a requirement, but the state is (arguably) free to enact such a requirement if they do choose. It is not unreasonable for them to limit access to candidates that people would actually vote for.

      Put a different way: I can’t reasonably demand ballot access solely on the basis that I am a 40-year-old person who was born in the US, has lived in the US my entire life, and has never committed insurrection. With that minimum criteria alone, millions of people could appear on a ballot. The complexity of such a ballot would violate the rights of the voters asked to cast a vote in that election.

      The state is empowered to create the rules for its own elections; it is not empowered to use those rules to violate civil rights. But it is not a “right” to appear on a ballot.

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        1 year ago

        I wasn’t trying to say any restrictions on who can appear on the ballot are undemocratic - nor was I necessarily saying any state currently has undemocratic rules regarding ballot eligibility. It was more about hypotheticals, like what I said about Texas - in theory, does the constitution and body of federal laws allow for states to create undemocratic eligibility criteria that would withstand legal scrutiny?