California’s lieutenant governor sent a letter to the state’s secretary of state on Wednesday asking her to explore "every legal option" to remove former President Don...
Fully agreed, but what if a Dem president is “allegedly” inciting an insurrection? In terms of electoral games, this is really one I would not want to play with the GOP. They will say that Biden is a traitor because he pulled troops from Afghanistan/the border/whatever other BS they can come up with.
With a conviction I would be fully in favour of removing Trump from the ballot. Without a conviction it’s just too easy for GOP to come up with a BS story. As a warning, many swing states are controlled by GOP.
So you’re reasoning is that we shouldn’t legitimately use the constitutional amendment to bar a criminal insurrectionist from running for president because other criminals may fraudulently use the same amendment in the future?
“If you legitimately try to stop the criminals with laws, those criminals may use those same laws illegitimately in the future” is not a reason to let them get away with their bullshit.
Far from it, and you are making exactly my point. I think a “criminal insurrectionist” (as in criminally convicted) should be removed from the ballot. Doing this to somebody who is not convicted opens the door to all kinds of shenanigans.
Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction. In fact, there had not been a conviction in ANY of the instances where the amendment was invoked.
Fully agreed, but what if a Dem president is “allegedly” inciting an insurrection? In terms of electoral games, this is really one I would not want to play with the GOP. They will say that Biden is a traitor because he pulled troops from Afghanistan/the border/whatever other BS they can come up with.
With a conviction I would be fully in favour of removing Trump from the ballot. Without a conviction it’s just too easy for GOP to come up with a BS story. As a warning, many swing states are controlled by GOP.
So you’re reasoning is that we shouldn’t legitimately use the constitutional amendment to bar a criminal insurrectionist from running for president because other criminals may fraudulently use the same amendment in the future?
“If you legitimately try to stop the criminals with laws, those criminals may use those same laws illegitimately in the future” is not a reason to let them get away with their bullshit.
Far from it, and you are making exactly my point. I think a “criminal insurrectionist” (as in criminally convicted) should be removed from the ballot. Doing this to somebody who is not convicted opens the door to all kinds of shenanigans.
Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment does not expressly require a criminal conviction. In fact, there had not been a conviction in ANY of the instances where the amendment was invoked.