• LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    You really don’t have a clue what trans people are do you? The reason some of us require access to hormone replacement and surgical healthcare is specifically because of the way that our bodies are. Accepting trans people is not in any way illogical or unscientific. It is an acknowledgment that gender is not a simple binary option. We would expect gender to exist identically across the entire world if that were the case. It doesn’t. Western imperialists have a long history of enforcing a binary patriarchal view of gender onto conquered peoples. And people have always resisted that too, non-binary gender and trans gender people have always existed under differing names throughout human history.

    Man and Woman are not and never have been determined by biology. When you choose what pronoun to use for a stranger, you do not need to first look at their blood tests or their genitals. If you gender a stranger wrong, and they correct you you generally just apologize and move on. When I was a young child and had long hair people frequently referred to me as a girl. It was never an issue when they would be corrected on that. They didn’t need to see my blood tests or my genitals to believe me when I corrected them. Because that’s not how gender works, it is not and never has been a product of biology. It is associated with different bodies, but that is not its basis.

    Trans people are not denying reality, rather we are acknowledging it and saying people should have the choice of what gender is assigned to them. That instead of assigning it everyone should be free to state their own gender. That this process is not disruptive or damaging to any aspect of society (and it isn’t, there has never been one single legitimate peer-reviwed non-discredited study that showed that it is).

    You might love having a cock and a flat chest and being a man but I absolutely hated it! It was the driving force behind multiple suicide attempts throughout my adolescence and early adulthood. I’ve been on hormones for a decade and it has made me a million times happier, I got reassignment surgery 2 years ago and I have never been a healthier person and never felt as good about my own body. It has had a very provably fantastic effect on my well-being. It is entirely scientific.

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      Hi LadyAutumn, thank you for writing this up. I’m really glad you’re here. Just wanted to say that since a sad troll is trying to make it seem like we’re not. But that guy doesn’t speak for me, and I’m so happy your transition has been healthy and life-affirming. Best wishes :)

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      Here I am, going to get downvoted into oblivion, but you already speak about the topic so I want to ask.

      Trans people have the cure for their condition - that being surgery. Why shouldn’t being trans (before actually transitioning!) considered being ill?

      Sorry if I come as rude but in today’s hellscape there’s really no way to ask that without sounding like a douche.

      • OneMeaningManyNames@lemmy.ml
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        First, surgery is not sth every trans person seeks, nor the first thing that they seek.

        Equating trans with surgery shows that you know next to nothing about the topic.

        Again, if you want to educate yourself here

        Being trans is a reality not a condition. Like (some) veterans have PTSD, that does not mean being a veteran is mentally ill.

        World Health Organization lists gender incongruence under “conditions related to reproductive health” not mental conditions. American Psychiatric Organization has “gender dysphoria” under mental conditions, but clearly states this is to get access to care, being trans in itself is not a mental condition.

        Finally, the fact that there is a “cure”, does not mean there must necessarily be an illness, for example abortions are health care for unwanted pregnancy this does not mean pregnancy is an illness.

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        you’re missing the point of being transgender.

        the goal is not to claim that they were born a different gender. that would be delusional, and transgender people can be totally rational.

        the point is simply to live as their preferred gender, and ideally be accepted as such.

        when they live as their preferred gender, they are able to feel happy and content, just like everyone else. it’s not that difficult to consider how miserable we would feel if people misgendered us. it’s a common insult.

        treating everyone as the gender they prefer is a simple act of kindness. you can choose to be an asshole about it, but you’re not standing up for the truth, you’re just choosing to be an asshole.

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        Do you need to see proof that someone is, has been, or can become pregnant before you can agree they are a girl or woman?

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            I’ll ask again since you seemingly didn’t understand.

            Before you can decide if someone you’re referring to or talking with is a girl or a woman, do you need to see proof that they are pregnant, have been pregnant, or can become pregnant? Do you put a hold on every social interaction you have until you are presented with such proof?

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                You’ve never gendered someone wrong before? Never seen a boy with long hair and called him a girl by accident? Never got someone’s gender wrong because of how they looked? Do you interact socially with other people very often?

                But I’ll ask again. Every time you talk about another person, either directly or indirectly, do you demand to see biological evidence of past or present pregnancy, or the ability to become pregnant, before you can agree they are a girl or a woman? If the answer to that question is no, then how do you know that they are a girl or woman? What is it that tells you that? What are you assessing that tells you that they are a girl or woman?

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                    Haha, I don’t believe that for a second. Whether you have or not doesn’t matter, because it happens all the time. And as someone who was an androgynous kid I got called a girl all the time. I certainly didn’t do anything to dissuade that. People used to ask my mom who her little sister was cause my mom was a young mother. And she’d have to awkwardly correct them both on the fact that I was her child and that I was a boy.

                    Are you going to actually respond to the rest of that comment though? Come on, let’s see some reading comprehension skills and critical thinking. Defend your views.

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        I live on my own and support myself and my family with a full-time job in technology.

        And yeah, people like you are very predictable in your arguments. Like how you didn’t even argue against anything I said. Because you can’t, there is no actual counterargument except to deny everything and assert God. Took me all of 10 minutes to type my response. This concerns my rights and freedoms, the rights and freedoms of my community, and the rights and freedoms of vulnerable people like trans youth and disabled trans people. I will never accept an attack on their rights.

        I don’t live in the US, so I’ll have to ask 9 days until what exactly? Go off buddy you’re so cool spreading hate speech about minorities on the internet. Your ideological allies got shot by allied soldiers landing on the beaches of Normandy in June of 1944. That’s who the group of people with views and strategies most closely aligned with your own are. You should think a bit about what that says about you.