So here we go again…
Please direct all comments and links regarding the actual VOTING to this thread.
Edit Confirmed, Mike Johnson is the next speaker after running the table of all present and voting Republicans, 220 to Hakeem Jeffries 209.
If you’d like to know more about Mike Johnson, here’s a good link:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-republican-2020-election
I’ll leave this pinned for 24 hours so everyone can catch up, then take it down.
1st vote count is in:
Hakeem Jeffries - 212 (217 needed to win)
Jim Jordan - 200
Steve Scalise - 7
Kevin McCarthy - 6
“Others” - 7
Jordan could have only lost 4 votes, he lost 20.
2nd vote:
Jeffries - 212
Jordan - 199
Scalise - 7
McCarthy - 5
Zeldin - 3
“Others” - 7 (one each)
Edit 3rd vote is in, House in recess.
Jeffries - 210
Jordan - 194
Scalise - 8
McHenry - 6
Zeldin - 4
Donalds - 2
McCarthy - 2
“Others” - 3 (1 each)
Matt Gaetz has vowed to oppose expanding the powers for McHenry:
Johnson, one of the most conservative options imaginable, won probably because Republicans were sick of the chaos.
They are currently in the fuck around phase, and when it comes time to do the budget, will find out. Johnson will either trigger a shutdown and get all the blame onto the Republicans by refusing to compromise (and further prove the crazies have taken over the party) or he’ll get a deal with Democrats and then Gaetz will yeet him again.
I give it until… Dec 1. Until speaker elections begin again.
The dude was an insurrectionist, could he affect the next election?
Honestly, it might be presumptive to think he’ll last that far ahead.
Personally I prefer this to just two united parties, that’s how stuff like the PATRIOT Act got enacted. It also leads to compromises being bipartisan rather than non-partisan. There is a preferable way the parties could be divided, but this is better than nothing.
12/1 is also the deadline for motions in the Trump Georgia case. We might get a trial date then.
I am thinking new years.
Then we’ve got a bet!
Someone fill me in. I don’t know shit about this guy.
I’m watching the vote live, and the in-video chat are all saying the guy is an election denier, full blown MAGA, and would promote a government shutdown. If this is the case, MAGA wins and will be emboldened to pull this shit again and again, knowing that they’ll get their way in the end because the moderates of the party will eventually cave.
Good luck getting any kind of debt ceiling bill passed. This guy isn’t gonna cut a backroom deal to get a bill passed knowing full well that they’ll just hold another motion to vacate the minute they even sniff him trying.
EDIT: Yup, full blown MAGA. Swallows the Trump mushroom dick right down to the balls. MAGA wins. They have officially taken over the GOP.
Not just a Trumper, but part of Trump’s legal team during the impeachment and tried to help overthrow the 2020 election:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/who-is-mike-johnson-republican-2020-election
This is what the country gets for giving the Republicans more seats in the mid terms. Congrats, you played yourselves.
There will be one. They need to pass aid for Israel, Ukraine, and fund border security. The donors demand it. After that? Good luck
Border security? Yeah. Israel? Probably. Ukraine? I’m not so sure.
Biden wants all the aid in one package. The GOP want to split it up so they can vote on border security and Israel and ignore Ukraine.
And then there are other holdouts who just want deep cuts everywhere and are willing to watch the world burn to get it. If these morons have all consolidated around this guy, that means he promised them something. And if it’s MAGA that’s asking for it, you know it’s not going to be good. These people just learned that if they hold out long enough, they’ll eventually get their way. You think after that they’re going to be willing to negotiate on anything? No, they’re going to make their demands, and will force a government shutdown until they get their way. Again.
There already is a bipartisan bill made in the senate. It covers all the bases and would be political suicide to not pass it.
Have you not been paying attention lately?
RepubliQan Suicide Squad! Attack!
Mccarthy made it a while before stabbing everyone in the back and becoming the first speaker ever voted out
Scalise didn’t make it out of their closed door voting
Jordan got humiliated 3 times and withdrew
Emmer also lost
Now we’re onto Mike Johnson, and I don’t see him making it either
What a joke republicans are
It’s amazing how low the House has fallen. It’s always been dysfunctional, but this seems like a new low point. The question is “Is it THE low point? Or is it simply A low point?”
I’ll have to admit, I’m surprised Mike made it
Now all his insane views have come to light though, we’ll see how well he can actually wrangle the party and work with dems (since any legislation has to pass the senate/president)
I loved how on one of the votes someone voted for Boehner…
But yeah, anything they pass on party lines is dead in the Senate and even it weren’t, they can’t overcome a veto.
This has me wondering how much longer is this going to go on before the Republicans end up with mass calls to step down and resign from the House of Representatives and let the Democrats take over. When the Government runs out of funds and is forced to shut down November 17th?
Aaaand Emmer is out…
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-24-23/index.html
Will
ScaliseJordanEmmerJohnson drop out so that the next, somehow even less popular, Republican can try?House Republicans pick Tom Emmer as their next speaker nominee
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/24/house-speaker-vote/
…Annnnnnnnnd now he’s dropped out.
Emmer Drops Speaker Bid After Right-Wing Backlash https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/politics/house-speaker-election.html
He probably got multiple viable death threats to his family.
How the fuck are these nutjobs still out there? Are there really that many people willing to throw their lives away by declaring a death threat to a politician? Truly insane.
Emmer is a 26 No during roll call vote. As a result, they’re thinking of putting in Donald Trump.
If the moderate Republicans thought the death threats from voting against Jordan was bad…
…but he’s not Of the House. You can’t just say Robert of Wisconsin if Robert’s not from Wisconsin
The Constitution does not explicitly require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/can-outsider-be-speaker-house-n441926
The normal holdhouts are not holding out. They are going for johnson en-masse.
I’m betting they threatened anyone who didn’t vote for him with being primaried and no funding.
Could all the republicans just drop out of the entire government since they obviously don’t want to govern? They should just skip a few steps and (ghost) write their books ffs
Bunch of toddlers
House Republicans pick Rep. Mike Johnson as their fourth speaker nominee
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/24/house-speaker-vote/
Ah shit, here we go again.
Ugh. This guy is such a piece of shit. I hope he steps on some legos.
What did legos ever do to you?
Impaled his feet?
Wonder how long this piece of shit’s term as Speaker will last.
Probably depends on how fast he jettisons the rule that lets a single member call for a vote to get rid of him.
Tom Emmer drops out. No current candidate for speaker:
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-24-23/index.html
My day is made immeasurably better by Jim Jordan’s failure. This entertainment is surely the best thing he’s ever done for the country.
