• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’d be on board if it was actually useful and accurate. But it has proven time and time again to be hot garbage 99% of the time as they shove it down everyone’s throat. They keep talking about it being a new age of AI and how it’s going to change the world but it’s only made the internet a worse place and changed nothing or made things worse.

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      They keep talking about it being a new age of AI and how it’s going to change the world but it’s only made the internet a worse place and changed nothing or made things worse.

      Just like with crypto and NFTs.

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        TBH an open source multiple ledger system for financial transactions was an amazing idea which has helped stabilize a lot of economies around the world whose currencies became undervalued to extremes.

        NFTs was fucking dumb tho, lol, basically a way to print a receipt for traded goods without any legal enforcement on tying the property to the receipt.

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          NFTs would make sense for things like tradable software licenses. E.g steam is going to be forced to allow users to sell their games soonish (they’re appealing the ruling and it’s only a matter of time until they lose) and you wouldn’t want such a license to be tied to a particular marketplace, so NFTs make sense: The game publisher mints it, it’s tradable freely, sites like steam and gog can look at them and say “yep this hasn’t been tampered with and was minted by the publisher”, and serve you the game files. Presumably they’d want you to occasionally buy something on their platform to let you use their servers to download games they didn’t sell you, or you could pay a small sum for the service.

          The NFT itself, of course, doesn’t enforce anything. It’s just a non-fungible token representing usage rights in the game. Like a cd key but more secure, for the publisher (key can’t be duplicated / used multiple times, I mean a platform that would allow that could just as well go all the way and be a torrent release group) and the buyer (can check validity of key before spending money) and seller (buyer can’t claim bullshit like “key didn’t work”).

          What you probably would not do is put that stuff on already-existing blockchains because why should the industry pay ludicrous transaction fees when you can roll your own.

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            We could call it an “Activation Code” or “Software License Key”…

            Jokes aside how is it more secure than a CD Key to be on the blockchain? Also remember that form of validation would require online status, making it equivalent to CD Key security in that regard.

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              A CD doesn’t really mean anything, the license and the physical medium generally aren’t tied. If you break the medium but have a backup you’re not pirating anything. I’d say the primary difference to a CD isn’t more or less secure but physical or not.

              Downloading the game also requires an online connection. You’d only need one when you’re buying or selling the license NFT or moving it from one download platform to another, and of course to download the game. Whether you need an online connection to play depends on the game, not the NFT.

              Oh, speaking of: Are you an EU citizen? Have you already signed this?

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      For me it’s useful, the 99% garbage is hype and misuse. I’d like the exploitative nature of llms to die, rther than the technology itself

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        Most people have no issue with what we were calling AI before the LLM fad hellscape we’re currently in.

        No one sane is going to object to using machine learning to optimize the performance of an antenna, or crash safety of a car frame. People aren’t against the existence of AI opponents in video games. No one was ranting about fuzzy search algorithms, or neural nets on their own. Beyond that, data science has been a thing for ages with no contreversy.

        The issue is generative AI and how it is being used. The best case use scenarios are just supplanting tech that already exists at higher cost and delivering worse results. The worst case use scenarios are attempting to cannibalize multiple creative pursuits to remove the need for humans and maximize profits.

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          Yeah, that’s what I’ve meant: the issue with generative ai is how it is being used, another issue is the lack of compensation to stolen training data. But these are human / capitalist set of incentives problems.

          As a developer it helpd me countless of times, by helping me understand legacy code, or new concepts, in a chatty way, by helping me write corporate friendly formal emails. I use it to recommend and discover music or just mindlessly chatting with it about nothing. The technology is genuinely useful. (I do click stack overflow and other sites links when it provides, and turned off my ad blocker for some sites)

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      Honestly the problem is that it simultaneously works too well and not well enough.

      The truth is, it’s proven time and time again to be hot garbage about 85% of the time. But that 15% of the time that it works great, that’s why it’s being shoved down our throats. That’s what’s ruining this for everyone, that fact that on rare occasions, it does actually work…

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        Schedules reinforcement. Destined to cause addiction. Like vegas gambling casinos. Or drugs. Or the economy.

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        Yeah, I agree with that. And their solution instead of actually fixing the problem is throwing money and computing power at it in the hope that brute force will make it “better.” When in reality it hasn’t even changed that much in the past year besides more eloquently saying complete bullshit. Call it a conspiracy, but I think with nobody ever telling the truth on the internet, LLM’s have only taught themselves to bullshit everyone into believing them.

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          Yeah, I agree with that. And their solution instead of actually fixing the problem is throwing money and computing power at it in the hope that brute force will make it “better.”

          Haha, well to be fair, that usually works… Most big problems could be solved by throwing effort and money at them. Hell, when I think about a lot of national issues, education, infrastructure, energy, crime, poverty, most of these could be solved by throwing money at them. And it would take less money than you might guess.

          Call it a conspiracy, but I think with nobody ever telling the truth on the internet, LLM’s have only taught themselves to bullshit everyone into believing them.

          And yeah, you’re definitely not imagining that. I’d say there’s something to that theory.