Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

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    8 months ago

    The Likud Party hat that phrase in it’s founding charter: “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”

    Yes, it was used earlier by the PLO but back then the meaning was more like “take back what was ours”. It was not against the jews, they were there before the founding of Israel. It was against the forced taking of land by creating the state of Israel.

    Extremist forces took it further, especially Hamas. But by then the sitation was already complicated enough for an easy solution…

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      8 months ago

      Do you only get you talking points from tankie TikTok?

      Person A: “I live in this land, and I will continue living in this land” Person B: “Only I will live in this land, not you”

      Does that help your tankie peabrain better understand why it’s genocidal in the way Palestinians use it? Also, depending on how far back you want to go with “before”, the Jews were actually there before the Palestinians. Up until the Romans sold some of them into slavery and then the Muslims came in to finish the job.

      Regardless, Likud are extremists and should not be in power. Just like Hamas and the PLO.

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        8 months ago

        I am not your enemy, I’m taking part in a discussion. Also this is my first post in this thread, stop talking like I personally offended you.

        I explicitly wrote about the state of Israel and not the Jewish people. So the timeframe of my argument the founding of Israel and the decades after that. Jewish europeans settled there since the end of the 19th century, and for almost half a century it worked. The phrase started being used after that.