• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    First of all, a whole lot of people have done that very thing for a better life

    So do you think Ukranians should leave and let Russia have their land?

    Secondly, those Jews have been there as long as Arabs have.

    Factually untrue.

    The only reason Israel was created was Europeans countries still wanted to get rid of their Jewish populations.

    So they sent them to the Middle East and told the people living there to GTFO.

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    Also while nouns are used for ethnicity, adjectives are appropriate for things like religion.

    If they were Arabs, then they’re from that area.

    They may be Jewish as well. But saying anyone that’s Jewish is from the Middle East just isn’t logical.

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        There are Ukrainians in the US.

        And there are Israelis here too… I know a couple that escaped after being forced into the IDF.

        Where did the word Judah come from and where is it?

        By your logic every human alive has a claim to Africa and can go there and genocide their incredibly distant cousins because Africa is rightfully theirs…

        You’re talking about stuff from thousands of years ago. Israel the country has existed for less time than the current US president has been alive. Who cares about a different ancient kingdom?

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          Israel the country has existed for less time than the current US president has beenant alive

          If you want to start in 1948, that’s when Palestine was created too.

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              8 months ago

              The UN created Isreal as well as Palestine. Yes, there were Arabs in the area all along. The jews were there 3,000 years ago but were forced off by the Romans. TheBrits simply held the territory after WWII.

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                So…

                That was 2,000 years ago…

                Should the royal family of England also return England to it’s natives?

                Should they return America to the Native Americans?

                They didn’t seem to agree with the Irish when they wanted to kick the English out of Ireland.

                Why stop at 3,000 years ago?

                Why not return it to the descendants of the first hominids that set foot there? Modern Asians had to cross thru first to get to Asia, and some went all the way to the Americas.

                Should we give Native Americans Israel and call it a day? Sure, they left, but by your logic that doesn’t matter

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                  Let us settle on a date. I guess not the history of an ancient land. I guess not the creation of state. What is it?

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                    What’s not to get?

                    Palestine has existed uninterrupted for thousands of years…

                    It was where Abraham first started hearing voices in his head commanding him to kill his family which launched Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

                    Israel was created less than a century ago and it’s borders have only expanded. And they argue that they’re “the real Palestinians” and claim Palestine’s history as their own.

                    None of that makes logical sense, but it’s easy to see what they’re trying to do.