Elon Musk filed a lawsuit in San Franciscoā€™s Superior Court accusing OpenAI and its CEO, Sam Altman, of betraying the startupā€™s initial commitment to openness, the betterment of society, and lack of profit as a motive. Among other things, Muskā€™s 35-page complaint argues that OpenAI has violated its original deal to share its GPT large language models with Microsoft, which stated that the software giant would lose access to new LLMs once OpenAI had achieved AGI. According to the complaint, OpenAI reached that epoch-shifting moment a year ago with GPT-4, its most powerful model to date.

Muskā€”who cofounded OpenAI but left in 2018ā€”is at least as entitled as anyone to come up with his own definition of AGI. His complaint describes it as ā€œa general purpose artificial intelligence systemā€”a machine having intelligence for a wide variety of tasks like a human.ā€ That does sound like GPT-4 as I, a mere layperson, experience it in ChatGPT Plus.

But Muskā€™s declaration that the AGI era is already upon us is hardly the consensus among AI scientists. Even those who think itā€™s not far off predict arrival dates that are least a few years away. And GPT-4 falls well short of meeting OpenAIā€™s own explanation of the term: ā€œA highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work.ā€

Consider the evidence:

GPT-4 isnā€™t remotely autonomous; indeed, it does its best work when humans provide plenty of hand-holding in the form of detailed prompts. The world is still in the process of figuring out what tasks GPT-4 can do, and we frequently overrate its competence. Thatā€™s not even getting into the fact that OpenAIā€™s reference to ā€œmost economically valuable workā€ suggests that true AGI may involve not just software but also sophisticated robotics that donā€™t exist yet. To guess when OpenAIā€”or a rival such as Google, Anthropic, Meta, Mistral, or Perplexityā€”might reach AGI, as OpenAI defines it, is to expect that itā€™ll be an obvious moment in time. But OpenAIā€™s definition, like all the others, is squishy and difficult to put to a conclusive test. To riff on Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewartā€™s famous comment about pornography, maybe weā€™ll know it when we see it. At the moment, however, Iā€™m convinced that obsessing over AGIā€™s existence or nonexistence is counterproductive.

The whole notion of AGI is predicated on the assumption that AI started out dumber than a human but could someday match or exceed our level of thinking. Already, though, generative AI is different than human intelligenceā€”far closer to omniscient than any individual flesh-and-blood thinker, yet also preternaturally gullible and prone to blurring fact and fiction in ways that donā€™t map to common human frailties. Thatā€™s because itā€™s a predictive engine, trained to string together words without truly understanding them. If its present trajectory of simulated brilliance mixed with boneheadedness continues, it might wander off in a direction far afield from most definitions of AGI.

Even if the world lands on a new, more inclusive definition of AGI, it may be hard to prove whether a particular LLM has attained it. Muskā€™s lawsuit cites proof points of GPT-4ā€™s reasoning power, such as its scoring in the 90th percentile on the Uniform Bar Exam for lawyers and the 99th percentile on the GRE Verbal Assessment. That it can do so is astounding. But acing tests is not synonymous with performing useful work. And even if it were, who gets to decide how many tests an LLM must pass before itā€™s achieved AGI rather than just bobbled somewhere in its vicinity?

For decades, the Turing Testā€”which a computer would pass by fooling a human into thinking that it, too, was humanā€”was computer scienceā€™s beloved thought experiment for determining when AI had gotten real. Strangely enough, itā€™s useless as a tool for assessing todayā€™s LLM-based chatbots. But not because they know too little to fake humanity convincingly, or canā€™t express it glibly enoughā€”but because they betray their artificiality by being so good at churning out endless wordage on more topics than any human knows. AGI could end up in a similar predicament: a benchmark, devised by humans, thatā€™s rendered obsolete by the technology it was meant to measure.

DID YOU HEAR THE ONE ABOUT THE ā€œMAC CAR?ā€ Last week, Appleā€™s long, expensive quest to build an autonomous EV entered its rearview-mirror phaseā€”a sad fate my colleague Jared Newman blamed on the companyā€™s sometimes counterproductive pursuit of perfection. Wondering what an Apple car would be like has been an obsession for techies since 2012, when news broke that Steve Jobs had toyed with getting into the automobile business even before there was an iPhone. Or maybe it started in 2008, when reports of a meeting between Steve Jobs and Volkswagenā€™s CEO led to wild speculation about an ā€œiCar.ā€

Or how about 1998? According to Snopes, thatā€™s when a joke involving cars designed by software companies began spreading like crabgrass across the internet, eventually evolving into an urban legend involving a Bill Gates keynote and a General Motors press release. Along with a Microsoft car that crashed twice a day and occasionally needed its engine replaced for no apparent reason, it mentioned a ā€œMac carā€ that ā€œwas powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast, twice as easy to driveā€”but would only run on 5% of the roads.ā€

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    I really regret trying to use that quote as an example

    As an example of the unknowable? Perhaps you could elaborate what you feel to be unknowable.

    Science is the only way by which we can advance our understanding of the universe.

    Iā€™m actually surprised to read that from you. It doesnā€™t really square with your fairly dismissive attitude toward empiricism.


    Apparently, you are sure that GPTs canā€™t reason. However, you donā€™t know what reason means. So, IDK how you could possibly know whether anything or anyone is capable of reason.

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      Not an example of the unknowable. An example of knowing that something ā€˜is notā€™ without defining what ā€˜isā€™.

      I have a dismissive attitude towards things like the Turing test because theyā€™re only empirical insofar as they empirically record a subjective opinion.

      Similarly, with the Othello study, my problem is not with their data, but what they attempt to extrapolate from it.

      In the same way that I canā€™t define God, I can say with some certainty that you arenā€™t it. Could I be wrong? Potentially, in an incredibly, incredibly unlikely scenario. Am I willing to take that risk? Yesā€¦ and Occams Razor supports such.

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        An example of knowing that something ā€˜is notā€™ without defining what ā€˜isā€™.

        So can you define what reason is not?

        I have a dismissive attitude towards things like the Turing test because theyā€™re only empirical insofar as they empirically record a subjective opinion.

        Then you have a dismissive attitude toward much of science.

        Similarly, with the Othello study, my problem is not with their data, but what they attempt to extrapolate from it.

        What do they attempt to extrapolate from it?

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          Poor word choice on my part. I can know that something is not without defining what is. See God example.

          I definitely have a dismissive attitude towards social sciences. Not actual science tho.

          For my criticisms of the Othello study please see my previous comment elaborating on them.

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            Poor word choice on my part. I can know that something is not without defining what is. See God example.

            So your opinions on reasoning are part of a religious belief?

            I definitely have a dismissive attitude towards social sciences. Not actual science tho.

            You donā€™t know what actual science is.

            For my criticisms of the Othello study please see my previous comment elaborating on them.

            I didnā€™t ask about your criticisms. Iā€™m still trying to piece together where you are actually going with this.

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              If you could read with a 5th graderā€™s level of comprehension you would know by now. Feel free to go back. Itā€™s all there. Just put it together.

              Never said anything about a religious belief. People are open to hold them, even if irrational.

              Iā€™m a literal scientist so I donā€™t know how that could be possible. It seems like youā€™re the one that has a problem with extrapolating erroneously from data.

              I will not be replying again.