You see - it’s not some poor IT guy fucking things up (I mean ultimately the IT guy is the one who probably pressed the button, but no IT department acts independently from the system it exists within).
It’s AT&T not having the adequate amount of funding set aside to cover for redundancies + probably adequate staffing.
See… AT&T wants to make the biggest fucking profit margin possible… everything else be damned.
Say what you will about the ineptitude of government, but given funding, the government doesn’t have an incentive to make things shittier specifically just to get some sort of larger profit margin.
Yeah the DMV sucks, but Medicare works well… mostly because Republicans slice and diced budgets as much as they can get away with everywhere they can… and it’s much harder for them to sneak cuts to Medicare - which would clearly and directly affect senior citizens, who would then be less likely to vote for Republicans again no matter what culture war bullshit they spew from the billionaire owned cable TV they stay glued to.
They framed it incorrectly but they’re still right, mistakes happen, and no matter what you plan for really bad things can happen.
This wasn’t a catastrophe it was some downtown (and it wasn’t even all their customers in all their service areas – my uncle had this problem his wife did not, they’re both on AT&T in literally the same house). It’s happened with Google, it’s happened with Amazon AWS, it’s happened with various other major players. Nobody and no department is immune to them, making AT&T a nationalized company is very unlikely to have helped here.
In fact, because we’re so bad at raising taxes to fund our federal agencies and things … it might actually be worse in terms of reliability.
That’s called corruption. You can easily write contacts that hold companies accountable. I know, I’ve seen and written some. You can offer incentives over a lower base pay for meeting goals. Or the possibility of repeat service contacts especially in spaces where sole source isn’t the norm.
That’s literally the Republican argument for outsourcing more and more stuff to contractors instead of hiring people in house. All it does is add overhead and waste money.
You hire contractors for temporary work. Because hiring government employees is a long term investment. Government employees have great job stability because they rarely downsize like industry does. I don’t like it either but the other option is to have a lot of surplus labor if projects end.
The other reason is that the government just doesn’t pay enough for specialists. It’s a side effect of slow change due to bureaucracy which helps prevent corruption in house. Also that pay is capped at the VP level which really needs to be raised.
Almost all of these problems could be mitigated but most civil service changes require Congress. So blame them and the Republicans desire to make government workers the enemy so no one really wants to fix it.
I suggest you frame the issue incorrectly as well.
First, I dont disagree with the notion that cellular networks are now critical infrastructure, and need extra regulation. They have some, but indeed they are still a for profit entity. There will always be motivation for making money in bad ways when culture pushes that the only thing that matters is investment returns and bottom lines.
Second, trying to tie government competency to political parties is ridiculous. I’ll accept shenanigans and policy, sure. I have worked in a form of government for twenty plus years. There’s all political types and all competency. There are some really good ones, and a lot of super shitty ones. Why a lot? Because they’d absolutely be fired for underperforming in the real world.
There is zero incentive to do anything well, fast, thorough, efficient, etc in government. We buy worse products, more expensive because of trying to support disabled small businesses as an example. You can’t buy things you need if you didn’t get it all at once, do with out. We waste money if there is any extra because of use or loose budgets. People spend millions of dollars on contracts where it was the wrong product or the right product that was missing a feature because the contracting office doesn’t know shit about what you need, and they overlooked a line item. They will never be fired. They are hard core whatever party you are. I’m assuming more D since you’ve been clear about shittimg on R.
Anyone who asserts government can do better has never worked in government. It can however ensure things are done, shitty or not, like Medicare/Medicare. The fraudulent claims are mostly uncaught because the people working there are also overworked, under paid, under resourced, and constrainted by policies, and political shenanigans.
Third, I don’t like greed either, but not every instance of something’s wrong can be solved by shitting on a political party. I hate both, but I don’t feel the need to tie everything to one of them.
Eminent domain that fucking shit and seize the infrastructure. A public utility should not be able to be taken out by a private company’s fuckups.
Do you think a public IT staffer would be immune to fuckups?
You frame the issue incorrectly.
You see - it’s not some poor IT guy fucking things up (I mean ultimately the IT guy is the one who probably pressed the button, but no IT department acts independently from the system it exists within).
It’s AT&T not having the adequate amount of funding set aside to cover for redundancies + probably adequate staffing.
See… AT&T wants to make the biggest fucking profit margin possible… everything else be damned.
Say what you will about the ineptitude of government, but given funding, the government doesn’t have an incentive to make things shittier specifically just to get some sort of larger profit margin.
Yeah the DMV sucks, but Medicare works well… mostly because Republicans slice and diced budgets as much as they can get away with everywhere they can… and it’s much harder for them to sneak cuts to Medicare - which would clearly and directly affect senior citizens, who would then be less likely to vote for Republicans again no matter what culture war bullshit they spew from the billionaire owned cable TV they stay glued to.
They framed it incorrectly but they’re still right, mistakes happen, and no matter what you plan for really bad things can happen.
This wasn’t a catastrophe it was some downtown (and it wasn’t even all their customers in all their service areas – my uncle had this problem his wife did not, they’re both on AT&T in literally the same house). It’s happened with Google, it’s happened with Amazon AWS, it’s happened with various other major players. Nobody and no department is immune to them, making AT&T a nationalized company is very unlikely to have helped here.
In fact, because we’re so bad at raising taxes to fund our federal agencies and things … it might actually be worse in terms of reliability.
No. They’d hire contractors to run it but they wouldn’t get paid if they fucked up this badly. And the infrastructure wouldn’t be tied together.
Have you seen the history of US military contracts? Getting paid billions to fuck it up is literally the game.
That’s called corruption. You can easily write contacts that hold companies accountable. I know, I’ve seen and written some. You can offer incentives over a lower base pay for meeting goals. Or the possibility of repeat service contacts especially in spaces where sole source isn’t the norm.
That’s literally the Republican argument for outsourcing more and more stuff to contractors instead of hiring people in house. All it does is add overhead and waste money.
You hire contractors for temporary work. Because hiring government employees is a long term investment. Government employees have great job stability because they rarely downsize like industry does. I don’t like it either but the other option is to have a lot of surplus labor if projects end.
The other reason is that the government just doesn’t pay enough for specialists. It’s a side effect of slow change due to bureaucracy which helps prevent corruption in house. Also that pay is capped at the VP level which really needs to be raised.
Almost all of these problems could be mitigated but most civil service changes require Congress. So blame them and the Republicans desire to make government workers the enemy so no one really wants to fix it.
What an irrational take
Because the most competent people work in government?
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I suggest you frame the issue incorrectly as well.
First, I dont disagree with the notion that cellular networks are now critical infrastructure, and need extra regulation. They have some, but indeed they are still a for profit entity. There will always be motivation for making money in bad ways when culture pushes that the only thing that matters is investment returns and bottom lines.
Second, trying to tie government competency to political parties is ridiculous. I’ll accept shenanigans and policy, sure. I have worked in a form of government for twenty plus years. There’s all political types and all competency. There are some really good ones, and a lot of super shitty ones. Why a lot? Because they’d absolutely be fired for underperforming in the real world.
There is zero incentive to do anything well, fast, thorough, efficient, etc in government. We buy worse products, more expensive because of trying to support disabled small businesses as an example. You can’t buy things you need if you didn’t get it all at once, do with out. We waste money if there is any extra because of use or loose budgets. People spend millions of dollars on contracts where it was the wrong product or the right product that was missing a feature because the contracting office doesn’t know shit about what you need, and they overlooked a line item. They will never be fired. They are hard core whatever party you are. I’m assuming more D since you’ve been clear about shittimg on R.
Anyone who asserts government can do better has never worked in government. It can however ensure things are done, shitty or not, like Medicare/Medicare. The fraudulent claims are mostly uncaught because the people working there are also overworked, under paid, under resourced, and constrainted by policies, and political shenanigans.
Third, I don’t like greed either, but not every instance of something’s wrong can be solved by shitting on a political party. I hate both, but I don’t feel the need to tie everything to one of them.
Also, you might check this conversation: https://lemmy.world/post/12163117